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    Are wild animals more freer than humans?

    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?
    We were free when we were wild animals. After getting socialised , we have responsibilities and duties . But don't you think that sacrifying something for family and friends is a good thing. Because only humans can get this much of love affection from others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?
    Animals could be free but still restrained within their confined environment to some extent. While humans are also free depending on what area you are actually debating on. Humans could free in all ramifications but not free minded, i still call that freedom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    We were free when we were wild animals. After getting socialised , we have responsibilities and duties . But don't you think that sacrifying something for family and friends is a good thing. Because only humans can get this much of love affection from others.
    Totally Agree with you by sacrificing our freedom we got the affection and love from our dear one which is priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?
    Hi all,

    Other living beings live freer than the human beings.
    because Human beings only have to
    Earn money/wage
    Do duties
    Have responsibility
    Pay rents
    Achieve goals
    etc.. but other living beings haven't anything like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    We were free when we were wild animals. After getting socialized , we have responsibilities and duties . But don't you think that sacrificing something for family and friends is a good thing. Because only humans can get this much of love affection from others.
    Of course, we have the understanding to give and take love. But haven't you ever felt trapped by those emotional entanglements?
    Would you rather sacrifice and feel regret or enjoy complete freedom where no one expects anything from you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?

    In the wild, deer have to fight off wolves, and wolves have to be able to find and kill deer or other animals.

    In domesticity, cattle have to eat what they're provided and will die when the farmer feels it should happen.

    Living as a human requires we follow the rules of society (as is also true of some other species, from bees to elephants). That causes us to lose some freedoms, but overall makes our lives better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Free will is a concept that does NOT exist in my opinion, for we are all puppets trying please someone in our society. Evry decision we take is manipulated and depends on the people around us, so we do not have free will. We just think that we do, that's all.

    But, if freedom means that you get to do whatever you wish to do, do you think wild animals are much freer than us, humans?
    Are we just kidding ourselves as the freest civilized animal? or the wild ones have achieved freedom a lot before us?
    Of course wild animals achieved much more freedom than us humans, we have so much obligations,restrictions and commitments in our lives so we can't do everything we wish to do in our life. but these obligations,restrictions and commitments are the things that make our humans lives more pleasant and beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hi all,

    Other living beings live freer than the human beings.
    because Human beings only have to
    Earn money/wage
    Do duties
    Have responsibility
    Pay rents
    Achieve goals
    etc.. but other living beings haven't anything like this.
    Haha, In your answer you have summed up the whole human life. Couldn't agree more.
    You're not going to master the rest of your life in one day. Don't stress. Master the day. Make this a daily reminder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Of course, we have the understanding to give and take love. But haven't you ever felt trapped by those emotional entanglements?
    Would you rather sacrifice and feel regret or enjoy complete freedom where no one expects anything from you?
    To be honest I want to enjoy complete freedom where no one expects anything from me, but it's not possible in our human life we are bounded to so many things and people in our lives have different expectations from us.
    You're not going to master the rest of your life in one day. Don't stress. Master the day. Make this a daily reminder.

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