Degree is considered as a qualification in a soceity. But do you think that we can measure the skills of a person with that degree? Can't be a skillful person without a degree???
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Degree is considered as a qualification in a soceity. But do you think that we can measure the skills of a person with that degree? Can't be a skillful person without a degree???
There are successful people existing who don't have a degree to achieve their dreams. If you really think you don't need a degree for your carrier then don't invest your time on it. But unfortunately, the degree is the scale of measurement of our education status in our society. To get any job, degree is the basic quality. Degree may not important for your career. But it'll be a supplement for your knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
Degree makes you graduate not intelligence, We can't judge a person intelligence with a degree, In fact I have seen so many intelligence people who didn't own a degree,Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
our society should stop scaling a person's intelligence with degree.
But why there are 20000 degree holders without job in our country?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiza
Well said. Specialy in our soceity, they just study for degree and first class. Not for knowledge or skill in the particular field ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhavya
Couldn't agree more, Many people told me that they are studying a irrelevant course just to get a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
There are 2 sides to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
- Because that's what happens when undergraduates aim to earn a degree without spending an ounce of effort in it. Instead, they rely on copy and paste method and friendship to earn them a degree and it works most of the time. So they graduate with no actual knowledge of their degree.
- because they haven't put much effort in updating themselves to the trend and just a degree and the 4 years old knowledge would not get a job. Learning would.
Exactly! A degree is a measure of your knowledge. But that doesn't mean it alone judges someone's brilliance. the point is a degree is the most tangible and reliable form of a measurement of knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adiza
If an undergrad is patient and determined enough to study for 4 years in a university environment, then he/she earns some kind of trust or respect from others. That is a reason why degree holders are respected. If we eliminate the concept of degree from our society, what kind of replacement do we have?Everyone keeps on complaining about the education system, examinations, and degrees! But what replacement or substitute do we propose? Nothing. If we complain about a problem, then we need to have a solution!
So we can come to the solution that the degree system doesn't produce skilled people.. Just self learning.. Isn't it??Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
There is solution.. We should apply and study something that interests us or we have to develop the interest in the field we have got selected to.. But what is happening in Sri Lanka is students apply for courses to just get any degree and then just follow the course to finish and get the degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
The choice is given to us! We get to apply for the course which we think will most suit us! If we don't select the correct field of study, whose fault is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
In my POV skills and qualification are two different poles.Fortunately some people find their qualifications connected with their skills but that's not the case with all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
We do need qualification, but if you achieve something big with your skills, no body will bother about your qualification.
So fault is with the students. Those students would be considered as undergraduate students and given much respect in the soceity and job opportunities. How is this fair?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
Life is a learning process! You have to keep updated on your field. There cannot be a process without change. Even if the grads are skilled, if they don't have the knowledge of current trend, then it's useless. The University enhances the capacity to learn... It's up to us to mould ourselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
"It is up to us to mould". That is what I am saying about. In Sri Lanka , the universities don't produce good professionals. People have become highly professional by themselves even if they are graduated. Can you say how many percentage of your btchmates are going to be industrial experts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
Are you even listening to what I'm saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
Universities can't spoon feed everything. University opens a lot of doors, but it is up to us to use those opportunities.
If an undergrad chooses to spend his uni life taking fun, then his future is nowhere near to being a professional.
If someone can't learn on their own, then they don't have the right to blame the governement or the universities!
Are you aware of what topic we are talking about? Why can't a person not having a degree can't be better in his job than a degree holder? When university can't motivate majority of the students to improve, it means it is ineffective. No need to spoon feed. But career guidance in our system is very bad from selecting streams in a/level to selecting university and course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
So it is the fault of the career guidance section. You can't just put the whole educational system as a guilty one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karikaalan
And as for your opinion on why someone who doesn't have a degree can't be better at what he does, that depends on the person. What kind of guarantee does a company have, that he/she will be better at the job than others who have got a valid degree? It's not always about the talent, it requires trust. Even if the at the person is better than average compared to the grads, what reason does he have for not following up a relevant degree? If he has got some reason which is inevitable and out of his control, it "MAY" be acceptable. But just foregoing the most tangible form of educational qualification just like that, is not the way to earn confidence and trust of companies and customers.
And as for your next point, universities are different from schools. To improve every student equally with special care is something done at schools, but universities are for adults. If some student expects to be taught as in school, then he is at fault. Not the university or the system. Development and changes need personal effort. Hope you get this simple point.
Well Said Shana we need to study to improve our knowledge and skills, also upgrade ourselves frequently then only we can win the job race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shana
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