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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    There is solution.. We should apply and study something that interests us or we have to develop the interest in the field we have got selected to.. But what is happening in Sri Lanka is students apply for courses to just get any degree and then just follow the course to finish and get the degree.
    The choice is given to us! We get to apply for the course which we think will most suit us! If we don't select the correct field of study, whose fault is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    Degree is considered as a qualification in a soceity. But do you think that we can measure the skills of a person with that degree? Can't be a skillful person without a degree???
    In my POV skills and qualification are two different poles.Fortunately some people find their qualifications connected with their skills but that's not the case with all.
    We do need qualification, but if you achieve something big with your skills, no body will bother about your qualification.
    Do what is RIGHT, NOT what is EASY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    The choice is given to us! We get to apply for the course which we think will most suit us! If we don't select the correct field of study, whose fault is that?
    So fault is with the students. Those students would be considered as undergraduate students and given much respect in the soceity and job opportunities. How is this fair?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    So we can come to the solution that the degree system doesn't produce skilled people.. Just self learning.. Isn't it??
    Life is a learning process! You have to keep updated on your field. There cannot be a process without change. Even if the grads are skilled, if they don't have the knowledge of current trend, then it's useless. The University enhances the capacity to learn... It's up to us to mould ourselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Life is a learning process! You have to keep updated on your field. There cannot be a process without change. Even if the grads are skilled, if they don't have the knowledge of current trend, then it's useless. The University enhances the capacity to learn... It's up to us to mould ourselves!
    "It is up to us to mould". That is what I am saying about. In Sri Lanka , the universities don't produce good professionals. People have become highly professional by themselves even if they are graduated. Can you say how many percentage of your btchmates are going to be industrial experts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    "It is up to us to mould". That is what I am saying about. In Sri Lanka , the universities don't produce good professionals. People have become highly professional by themselves even if they are graduated. Can you say how many percentage of your btchmates are going to be industrial experts?
    Are you even listening to what I'm saying?
    Universities can't spoon feed everything. University opens a lot of doors, but it is up to us to use those opportunities.
    If an undergrad chooses to spend his uni life taking fun, then his future is nowhere near to being a professional.
    If someone can't learn on their own, then they don't have the right to blame the governement or the universities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    Are you even listening to what I'm saying?
    Universities can't spoon feed everything. University opens a lot of doors, but it is up to us to use those opportunities.
    If an undergrad chooses to spend his uni life taking fun, then his future is nowhere near to being a professional.
    If someone can't learn on their own, then they don't have the right to blame the governement or the universities!
    Are you aware of what topic we are talking about? Why can't a person not having a degree can't be better in his job than a degree holder? When university can't motivate majority of the students to improve, it means it is ineffective. No need to spoon feed. But career guidance in our system is very bad from selecting streams in a/level to selecting university and course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karikaalan View Post
    Are you aware of what topic we are talking about? Why can't a person not having a degree can't be better in his job than a degree holder? When university can't motivate majority of the students to improve, it means it is ineffective. No need to spoon feed. But career guidance in our system is very bad from selecting streams in a/level to selecting university and course.
    So it is the fault of the career guidance section. You can't just put the whole educational system as a guilty one.
    And as for your opinion on why someone who doesn't have a degree can't be better at what he does, that depends on the person. What kind of guarantee does a company have, that he/she will be better at the job than others who have got a valid degree? It's not always about the talent, it requires trust. Even if the at the person is better than average compared to the grads, what reason does he have for not following up a relevant degree? If he has got some reason which is inevitable and out of his control, it "MAY" be acceptable. But just foregoing the most tangible form of educational qualification just like that, is not the way to earn confidence and trust of companies and customers.
    And as for your next point, universities are different from schools. To improve every student equally with special care is something done at schools, but universities are for adults. If some student expects to be taught as in school, then he is at fault. Not the university or the system. Development and changes need personal effort. Hope you get this simple point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shana View Post
    There are 2 sides to it.

    • Because that's what happens when undergraduates aim to earn a degree without spending an ounce of effort in it. Instead, they rely on copy and paste method and friendship to earn them a degree and it works most of the time. So they graduate with no actual knowledge of their degree.
    • because they haven't put much effort in updating themselves to the trend and just a degree and the 4 years old knowledge would not get a job. Learning would.
    Well Said Shana we need to study to improve our knowledge and skills, also upgrade ourselves frequently then only we can win the job race.
    You're not going to master the rest of your life in one day. Don't stress. Master the day. Make this a daily reminder.

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